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National Day of Prayer

The other day was the National Day of Prayer, and those on the far right violated the commandment of judge not, and bashed Obama’s faith because he didn’t make a big deal out of it… of course the fact that nobody prior to W made a big deal out of it didn’t bother them. As we can see by the purposeful disinformation given to members of the church about cosmology/ambiogenesis/evolution, one can count on the far right to bear false witness.
The National Day of Prayer sort of… okay no sort of about it… violates the separation between church and state. Of course the far right say that was about keeping government out of the affairs of the church, and while that is partially true, they are wrong to suggest that it wasn’t about keeping the church out of government affairs. If one reads the letters to and from Jefferson about it, it was clear the Founding Fathers intended to keep the church out of the state.
Modern day Christians seem to forget the Pilgrims. The Pilgrims came to the Americas to escape, now pay attention, the Christian ran government and the actions of the Church itself. Modern day Christians recall the Pilgrims came for religious freedom, but forget that the ones who persecuting and repressing them were Christians. Heck, it wasn’t too long ago that people were being burned at the stake for being the wrong kind of Christian. A church in power of the state is a dangerous thing, and this is why the Founding Fathers erected the wall of separation between church and state.
Of course all the commentators had to bear false witness and make the claim that the US was founded on Christian principles. Which is odd, since the idea of a republic is Pagan, the idea of Democracy is Pagan and our system of laws is based on English Common Law, which was around long before Christians were in Europe… yes when it was Pagan. So it seems we were founded on principals of the Druids and those worshiping the Greek Pantheon. Most of the Founding Fathers were Deist, not Theist.

Dole Slanders her Opponent With Outright Lie of Godlessness

Has it really come to this? Sen. Elizabeth Dole is falsely accusing her opponent Kay Hagan in ads and on the campaign trail of being “godless” because the race is too tight. At one point in her ad she shows a picture of Hagan while somebody else does a voice over saying “There is no God.” Leaving views under the impression she said it. Of course, even if she was godless, who cares? We aren’t electing a pastor, but a Senator in that case. As we know, this country wasn’t founded under Christian principles anyhow. The fact is however, Hagan is a Christian and former Sunday School teacher. The ad is simply a pathetic attempt by Dole to scare voters away with an outright lie simply because she might loose the election. How good of a so-called Christian slandering another Christian of being godless just to win an election. CNN’s Campbell Brown gives the details:

Interesting Historical Note

McCain, and tons of others, talk about how America was founded on Judea-Christian traditions. however, even Thomas Jefferson (yes, THE Thomas Jefferson, renowned Founding Father, favored among Liberals, Neo-Cons, Evangelicals and more) noted: “The proof of the contrary, which you have adduced, is incontrovertible; to wit, that the common law existed while the Anglo-Saxons were yet Pagans, at a time when they had never yet heard the name of Christ pronounced, or knew that such a character had ever existed.” Thomas Jefferson’s original design for the Great Seal was to include the images of Hengist and Horsa (leaders of the Anglo-Saxons, two thousand years before Christianity reached their shores) on one side (to be fair the reverse side on Jefferson’s seal would have had Moses leading people to the promised land.). So, if we are speaking about our system of laws and values, we are in fact founded on Pagan traditions…
Perhaps McCain wasn’t talking about our Nation’s actual founding, but going back further… Native Americans… not Christian before Westerner’s forced them to convert, so he wasn’t talking about them. Vikings were here next… again not Christian. The Pilgrims were Christian. Perhaps he was talking about them… but they were escaping a Christian country (much like the Evangelicals would like to setup), so perhaps not the best example. So what the hell was he talking about?